Wizard Of Odds Baccarat Game

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Wizard Of Odds Baccarat Game

In either blackjack or baccarat a good first step in developing a card counting strategy is to determine the effect of removing any given card from the game. The following table shows the number of banker, player, and tie wins resulting from the removing of one card in an 8-deck shoe. The card removed is indicated in the image--leftolumn.

Number

Online Casino Games - Play Free For Fun. Most of these games are crude and simple but still playable, and many include an important feature: they will tell you if you don't follow optimal strategy, so you can learn how to play better. NOTE: If you are running Internet Explorer 9 (which comes with Windows 7) and the game you want to play keeps. In a baccarat game, you have three options: Banker, Player or Tie. The objective of the game is to bet on the hand that gets closest to 9. Aces count as 1, while 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9 count as their number value. 10s and picture cards like queens and kings count as 0. Wizard is a very basic rule that many online players forget when joining the baccarat table. You may be familiar with the odds baccarat it pays to verify more information about it through the online casino that baccarat are using. Before playing in casinos, Wizard of Odds baccarat gives you the chance to play for free or money on the website. The site is known to analyze games and come up with a winning strategy that even beginners can learn. For baccarat, he came up with a game simulation to help players sharpen their skills. Baccarat May 11, 2015 Posted by Wizard. Blackjack May 11, 2015 Posted by Wizard. Wizard of Vegas uses cookies, this enables us to provide you with a personalised experience Got It!

Card
Removed
Banker WinPlayer WinTie Win
122592662028147202198201626637560468838163231312
222593903474394802198279181695870468636463548240
322594153369551302198240411263230468650244465232
422595656395608302198132965463160468607387659600
522590565407134702198626760121850468622691848272
622592306298549702198942636434940468132726393680
722592886254717402198847351781120468170015430736
822588808772148402198299582316670469125533152080
922590132111123202198292198535290469000583035984
1022590946490869702198163195365880469048148230736

The next table puts these number is some perspective by indicating the probability of a banker, player, and tie win according to the card removed.

Probability

Card
Removed
Banker WinPlayer WinTie Win
10.4586130.4462170.09517
20.4586380.4462330.095129
30.4586430.4462250.095132
40.4586730.4462030.095123
50.458570.4463030.095127
60.4586050.4463670.095027
70.4586170.4463480.095035
80.4585340.4462370.095229
90.4585610.4462350.095203
100.4585780.4462090.095213

The next table shows the house edge of each bet by card removed.

House Edge

Card
Removed
BankerPlayerTie
10.0105350.0123960.143467
20.0105270.0124050.143836
30.0105140.0124180.14381
40.0104630.012470.143889
50.0106620.0122670.143861
60.0106920.0122380.144756
70.0106620.0122690.144688
80.0106290.0122980.142942
90.0106020.0123260.14317
100.010560.0123690.143083

The next table shows the effect on the house edge of each bet according to the card removed. A negative number indicates removal is bad for the player, positive indicates removal is good.

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House Edge

Card
Removed
BankerPlayerTie
00.000019-0.0000180.000513
10.000044-0.0000450.000129
20.000052-0.000054-0.000239
30.000065-0.000067-0.000214
40.000116-0.000120-0.000292
5-0.0000830.000084-0.000264
6-0.0001130.000113-0.001160
7-0.0000830.000082-0.001091
8-0.000050.0000530.000654
9-0.0000230.0000250.000426

The next table multiplies the above numbers by ten million.

Count Adjustment

Card
Removed
BankerPlayerTie
0188-1785129
1440-4481293
2522-543-2392
3649-672-2141
41157-1195-2924
5-827841-2644
6-11321128-11595
7-827817-10914
8-5025336543
9-2312494260
Average000

To adapt this information to a card counting strategy, the player should start with three running counts of zero. As each card is seen as it leaves the shoe the player should add the point values of that card to each running count. For example if the first card to be played is an 8 then the three running counts would be: banker=-502, player=533, tie=6543. Of course the player does not have to keep a running track of all three counts. In fact the point values for the banker and player are nearly opposite of each other. A high running count for the banker would mean a corresponding low count for the player, and vise versa.

In order for any given bet to become advantageous the player should divide the running count by the ratio of cards left in the deck to get the true count. A bet hits zero house edge at the following true counts:

  • Banker: 105791
  • Player: 123508
  • Tie: 1435963

Assuming you were able to actually play this strategy perfectly you would notice that the true counts seldom passed the point of zero house edge. The next table shows the ratio of hands played, based on a sample of 100 million, in which the true count passes the break even points above. The image--leftolumn indicates the ratio of cards dealt before the cards are shuffled.

Positive Expectation

PenetrationBankerPlayerTie
90 percent0.0001310.0000240.000002
95 percent0.0010620.0003810.000092
98 percent0.0058760.0037000.002106

The final table indicates the expected revenue per 100 bets and a $1000 wager every time a positive expected value occured. Please remember that this table assumes the player is able to keep a perfect count and the casino is not going to mind the player only making a bet once every 475 hands of less.

Expected Profit

PenetrationBankerPlayerTie
90 percent$0.01$0.00$0.00
95 percent$0.20$0.06$0.15
98 percent$2.94$1.77$11.93

I hope this section shows that for all practical purposes baccarat is not a countable game. For more information on a similar experiment I would recomment The Theory of Blackjack by Peter A. Griffin. Although the book is mainly devoted to blackjack he has part of a chapter titled 'Can Baccarat Be Beaten?' on pages 216 to 223. Griffin concludes by saying that even in Atlantic City, with a more liberal shuffle point than Las Vegas, the player betting $1000 in positive expectation hands can expect to profit 70 cents an hour.

For your further consideration I would recommend this baccarat odds calculator. You can put in any deck composition and it will give the house edge on all three bets.

Go back to baccarat
Go to baccarat appendix 1
Go to baccarat appendix 3
Go to baccarat appendix 4
Go to baccarat appendix 5
Go to baccarat appendix 6
Go to baccarat appendix 7


Written by: Michael Shackleford
LuckoftheIrish
Does anybody have a baccarat simulator that can reproduce shoes with card values just like the Wizard's 2000 he has for 6 deck and 8 deck no his other site?
AverageJOE
Wizard´s 2000 is a joke if it is baccarat results and no need to use them at all - hit www.random.org and get any sampel you want - click on numbers then advance and make your settings.
PS it is all natural pure random based upon noise and if you succed with does sampels you will find the same when you visit your casino - no difference at all ..
With the fluctation and the nature of random events the distribution will unfold it self and never be due against or wiith any thing you develop.
The tiny difference with B/P would make no difference and random.org is free - you can download sampels of 100 000 a day if you want.
If you need simulation software i recommend roulette extreme from UX software.
Baccarat free game wizard and odds
Pick tabel with out zero and play RNG or does TRNGs from random.org wish you can load into RX.
Save file as 1 and 2 or if simulation software 0 to 36 ..
1
1
1
Wizard of odds blackjack game

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2
1
1
2
1
2
1
2
1
1
1
1
2
2
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O_o
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.
Garnabby
New installment at http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QUL3AO60 .
Test #3, for checking the frequencies of any specific streak; and the most-likely following streaks of the same length. (Like that OC-40 stuff, though i doubt it was actually computer-programmed as claimed.)
Some of the new stats aren't functional yet, lost a bit of planned time this weekend after a power-outage.
As usual, try out the smaller parameters first to see how things work.
Why bet at all, if you can be sure? Anyway, what constitutes a 'good bet'? - The best slots-game in town; a sucker's edge; or some gray-area blackjack-stunts? (P.S. God doesn't even have to exist to be God.)
guido111

Does anybody have a baccarat simulator that can reproduce shoes with card values just like the Wizard's 2000 he has for 6 deck and 8 deck no his other site?


Try the Baccarat Simulator also in Winstats. It is a free program. It is for stats and shoes only at present. No betting systems module at present.
Programmer has not released the source code. Shoes do not use a casino shuffle.
Window/Simulations/Baccarat
Winstats
There is not yet a complete user manual, most menus should be easy to understand. Has a help file.
Lots of stats. Can select items to be displayed. Run 1 shoe or 10,000 or more and print results.
added: newest version now has a Wizard's style Baccarat shoe result
example: Winstats Baccarat Shoe
Shoe#, Game#, Result, Player total, Banker total, player 3 cards, Banker 3 Cards

Also the many statistics can be unchecked to print to a document just the shoes and stats a user wants
Enjoy
Winstats, It is similar to Garnabbys nice program that he offers but does not offer the code at this time as does Garnabby.
Garnabbys program also uses a casino shuffle and can produce consecutive shuffled shoes. A cool feature if you are looking for casino shuffles.
heather
Odds

In either blackjack or baccarat a good first step in developing a card counting strategy is to determine the effect of removing any given card from the game. The following table shows the number of banker, player, and tie wins resulting from the removing of one card in an 8-deck shoe. The card removed is indicated in the image--leftolumn.

Number

Online Casino Games - Play Free For Fun. Most of these games are crude and simple but still playable, and many include an important feature: they will tell you if you don't follow optimal strategy, so you can learn how to play better. NOTE: If you are running Internet Explorer 9 (which comes with Windows 7) and the game you want to play keeps. In a baccarat game, you have three options: Banker, Player or Tie. The objective of the game is to bet on the hand that gets closest to 9. Aces count as 1, while 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9 count as their number value. 10s and picture cards like queens and kings count as 0. Wizard is a very basic rule that many online players forget when joining the baccarat table. You may be familiar with the odds baccarat it pays to verify more information about it through the online casino that baccarat are using. Before playing in casinos, Wizard of Odds baccarat gives you the chance to play for free or money on the website. The site is known to analyze games and come up with a winning strategy that even beginners can learn. For baccarat, he came up with a game simulation to help players sharpen their skills. Baccarat May 11, 2015 Posted by Wizard. Blackjack May 11, 2015 Posted by Wizard. Wizard of Vegas uses cookies, this enables us to provide you with a personalised experience Got It!

Card
Removed
Banker WinPlayer WinTie Win
122592662028147202198201626637560468838163231312
222593903474394802198279181695870468636463548240
322594153369551302198240411263230468650244465232
422595656395608302198132965463160468607387659600
522590565407134702198626760121850468622691848272
622592306298549702198942636434940468132726393680
722592886254717402198847351781120468170015430736
822588808772148402198299582316670469125533152080
922590132111123202198292198535290469000583035984
1022590946490869702198163195365880469048148230736

The next table puts these number is some perspective by indicating the probability of a banker, player, and tie win according to the card removed.

Probability

Card
Removed
Banker WinPlayer WinTie Win
10.4586130.4462170.09517
20.4586380.4462330.095129
30.4586430.4462250.095132
40.4586730.4462030.095123
50.458570.4463030.095127
60.4586050.4463670.095027
70.4586170.4463480.095035
80.4585340.4462370.095229
90.4585610.4462350.095203
100.4585780.4462090.095213

The next table shows the house edge of each bet by card removed.

House Edge

Card
Removed
BankerPlayerTie
10.0105350.0123960.143467
20.0105270.0124050.143836
30.0105140.0124180.14381
40.0104630.012470.143889
50.0106620.0122670.143861
60.0106920.0122380.144756
70.0106620.0122690.144688
80.0106290.0122980.142942
90.0106020.0123260.14317
100.010560.0123690.143083

The next table shows the effect on the house edge of each bet according to the card removed. A negative number indicates removal is bad for the player, positive indicates removal is good.

Play Baccarat Online For Practice

House Edge

Card
Removed
BankerPlayerTie
00.000019-0.0000180.000513
10.000044-0.0000450.000129
20.000052-0.000054-0.000239
30.000065-0.000067-0.000214
40.000116-0.000120-0.000292
5-0.0000830.000084-0.000264
6-0.0001130.000113-0.001160
7-0.0000830.000082-0.001091
8-0.000050.0000530.000654
9-0.0000230.0000250.000426

The next table multiplies the above numbers by ten million.

Count Adjustment

Card
Removed
BankerPlayerTie
0188-1785129
1440-4481293
2522-543-2392
3649-672-2141
41157-1195-2924
5-827841-2644
6-11321128-11595
7-827817-10914
8-5025336543
9-2312494260
Average000

To adapt this information to a card counting strategy, the player should start with three running counts of zero. As each card is seen as it leaves the shoe the player should add the point values of that card to each running count. For example if the first card to be played is an 8 then the three running counts would be: banker=-502, player=533, tie=6543. Of course the player does not have to keep a running track of all three counts. In fact the point values for the banker and player are nearly opposite of each other. A high running count for the banker would mean a corresponding low count for the player, and vise versa.

In order for any given bet to become advantageous the player should divide the running count by the ratio of cards left in the deck to get the true count. A bet hits zero house edge at the following true counts:

  • Banker: 105791
  • Player: 123508
  • Tie: 1435963

Assuming you were able to actually play this strategy perfectly you would notice that the true counts seldom passed the point of zero house edge. The next table shows the ratio of hands played, based on a sample of 100 million, in which the true count passes the break even points above. The image--leftolumn indicates the ratio of cards dealt before the cards are shuffled.

Positive Expectation

PenetrationBankerPlayerTie
90 percent0.0001310.0000240.000002
95 percent0.0010620.0003810.000092
98 percent0.0058760.0037000.002106

The final table indicates the expected revenue per 100 bets and a $1000 wager every time a positive expected value occured. Please remember that this table assumes the player is able to keep a perfect count and the casino is not going to mind the player only making a bet once every 475 hands of less.

Expected Profit

PenetrationBankerPlayerTie
90 percent$0.01$0.00$0.00
95 percent$0.20$0.06$0.15
98 percent$2.94$1.77$11.93

I hope this section shows that for all practical purposes baccarat is not a countable game. For more information on a similar experiment I would recomment The Theory of Blackjack by Peter A. Griffin. Although the book is mainly devoted to blackjack he has part of a chapter titled 'Can Baccarat Be Beaten?' on pages 216 to 223. Griffin concludes by saying that even in Atlantic City, with a more liberal shuffle point than Las Vegas, the player betting $1000 in positive expectation hands can expect to profit 70 cents an hour.

For your further consideration I would recommend this baccarat odds calculator. You can put in any deck composition and it will give the house edge on all three bets.

Go back to baccarat
Go to baccarat appendix 1
Go to baccarat appendix 3
Go to baccarat appendix 4
Go to baccarat appendix 5
Go to baccarat appendix 6
Go to baccarat appendix 7


Written by: Michael Shackleford
LuckoftheIrish
Does anybody have a baccarat simulator that can reproduce shoes with card values just like the Wizard's 2000 he has for 6 deck and 8 deck no his other site?
AverageJOE
Wizard´s 2000 is a joke if it is baccarat results and no need to use them at all - hit www.random.org and get any sampel you want - click on numbers then advance and make your settings.
PS it is all natural pure random based upon noise and if you succed with does sampels you will find the same when you visit your casino - no difference at all ..
With the fluctation and the nature of random events the distribution will unfold it self and never be due against or wiith any thing you develop.
The tiny difference with B/P would make no difference and random.org is free - you can download sampels of 100 000 a day if you want.
If you need simulation software i recommend roulette extreme from UX software.
Pick tabel with out zero and play RNG or does TRNGs from random.org wish you can load into RX.
Save file as 1 and 2 or if simulation software 0 to 36 ..
1
1
1
2
2
1
1
2
1
2
1
2
1
1
1
1
2
2
1
2
1
2
O_o
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.
Garnabby
New installment at http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QUL3AO60 .
Test #3, for checking the frequencies of any specific streak; and the most-likely following streaks of the same length. (Like that OC-40 stuff, though i doubt it was actually computer-programmed as claimed.)
Some of the new stats aren't functional yet, lost a bit of planned time this weekend after a power-outage.
As usual, try out the smaller parameters first to see how things work.
Why bet at all, if you can be sure? Anyway, what constitutes a 'good bet'? - The best slots-game in town; a sucker's edge; or some gray-area blackjack-stunts? (P.S. God doesn't even have to exist to be God.)
guido111

Does anybody have a baccarat simulator that can reproduce shoes with card values just like the Wizard's 2000 he has for 6 deck and 8 deck no his other site?


Try the Baccarat Simulator also in Winstats. It is a free program. It is for stats and shoes only at present. No betting systems module at present.
Programmer has not released the source code. Shoes do not use a casino shuffle.
Window/Simulations/Baccarat
Winstats
There is not yet a complete user manual, most menus should be easy to understand. Has a help file.
Lots of stats. Can select items to be displayed. Run 1 shoe or 10,000 or more and print results.
added: newest version now has a Wizard's style Baccarat shoe result
example: Winstats Baccarat Shoe
Shoe#, Game#, Result, Player total, Banker total, player 3 cards, Banker 3 Cards

Also the many statistics can be unchecked to print to a document just the shoes and stats a user wants
Enjoy
Winstats, It is similar to Garnabbys nice program that he offers but does not offer the code at this time as does Garnabby.
Garnabbys program also uses a casino shuffle and can produce consecutive shuffled shoes. A cool feature if you are looking for casino shuffles.
heather

It is similar to Garnabbys nice program that he offers but does not offer the code at this time as does Garnabby.
Garnabbys program also uses a casino shuffle and can produce consecutive shuffled shoes. A cool feature if you are looking for casino shuffles.


Garnabby's simulator is here, if anyone is looking for it. I downloaded it a while ago but never compiled or tested it. I got it from another Baccarat message board, where the program's author was making it available for people to test their systems with (a system player himself, he'd initially written for testing his own systems). It is a .bas file, so you'll need something that can compile/run those (Visual Basic, QuickBasic, etc..). I also can't vouch for its quality because, like I said, I haven't actually used it, just downloaded it and verified that it wasn't a virus or spyware or something.
Wizard
Administrator

Wizard´s 2000 is a joke if it is baccarat results and no need to use them at all


Care to elaborate?
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
Garnabby
Inserted an equal-sign to correct an insignificant problem with the print-out of the 'followers' for test #3, at http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KFO2R5ZO .
Enjoy!
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Download the free BASIC-compiler v1.01 at http://www.justbasic.com/download.html .
Load the simulator into the editor-window of the free compiler, which automatically opens up when clicked. (Change the EDITOR/PRINTER -fonts under SETUP to 'new Courier Regular-10', so that the one matches/fits the other and the simulator.)
Much of the explanation is contained within the program, itself. With the emphasis on finally helping everyone help themselves with the programing aspect of baccarat.
Though the program is set up to process up to 35 shoes, the user may change the 35's to 999's, or even beyond.. provided he/she takes the initiative to up-grade the PROGRAMSHUFFLE subroutine, left as a relatively-easy exercise. (As it stands, it's too-slow for the full number of shoes and tables.)
Join the free BASIC-language community at http://justbasic.conforums.com/index.cgi , for further assistance.

Wizard Of Oz Baccarat

Continued advancements to this program will be completed in BASIC for everyone. (That's not my own preferred programing language, pascal, so bear with me.)
Why bet at all, if you can be sure? Anyway, what constitutes a 'good bet'? - The best slots-game in town; a sucker's edge; or some gray-area blackjack-stunts? (P.S. God doesn't even have to exist to be God.)
Garnabby
Hi guido,
Hey, at last we meet on a board on which i am still allowed to post what i think and feel.

Programmer has not released the source code.


Is that because you basically plagiarized it (without credit) at www.baccaratforums.com a few months after i set it up as a means for baccarat-enthusiasts to finally work freely together 'in the light of day'? And appear to be setting yourself up for some sales 'down the road'?
Quote: guido111

Garnabbys program also uses a casino shuffle and can produce consecutive shuffled shoes. A cool feature if you are looking for casino shuffles.


Not exactly, but i intend to next provide a test to 'manually' alter the shuffler-program, and the shuffling, to get more people thinking about some real ways of approaching this game. I think it goes without saying, but these sorts of approaches quickly become quite-complex.
Why bet at all, if you can be sure? Anyway, what constitutes a 'good bet'? - The best slots-game in town; a sucker's edge; or some gray-area blackjack-stunts? (P.S. God doesn't even have to exist to be God.)
Garnabby

Though the program is set up to process up to 35 shoes, the user may change the 35's to 999's, or even beyond.. Understanding the over under bet. provided he/she takes the initiative to up-grade the PROGRAMSHUFFLE subroutine, left as a relatively-easy exercise. (As it stands, it's too-slow for the full number of shoes and tables.)

That was increased to 5 X 999 shoes some time ago, after it became somewhat apparent that others were interested in privatizing the program, rather than expanding it with the help of each other, together.
Why bet at all, if you can be sure? Anyway, what constitutes a 'good bet'? - The best slots-game in town; a sucker's edge; or some gray-area blackjack-stunts? (P.S. God doesn't even have to exist to be God.)
buzzpaff

Care to elaborate?


You expect a rational answer from someone who started a thread ' the law of series is only observation and not a law ' ?

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You got a better chance of getting an answer if you ask Dan what the True Count is . LOL

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